Why Live in a Salad Bowl
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Let’s think outside the box for a bit. America was once the great melting pot, where immigrants were assimilated so thoroughly, that their second generations grew up as simply Americans, without need of hyphens to describe their nationality. The Progressives have deliberately extinguished the melting pot in favor of a salad bowl. Now they extoll diversity to Balkanize America, intentionally destroying our native culture, and the natives are getting restless over their remarkable successes. It is only a matter of time before an inevitable civil war, between the traditionalists in the countryside, and the Progressives in the cities.
A great deal of effort lately has gone into successfully awakening millions of American Patriots, to the fact that our Constitutional Republic is no longer functioning anything like the way our Founders designed it. While the breathtaking pace with which Obama and his Marxist cohorts are dismantling our once great nation is stunning, the process of subverting our Constitution has been steadily progressing for well over 100 years. The vast majority of Americans still believe the Progressive lie that we live in a democracy, and this ignorance cannot be reversed by the simple expedient of electing a new batch of politicians, much less any hope of returning to the originally intended Republic of our Founders.
It is far too late for that. Now that the tax spenders outnumber the taxpayers, and they have been thoroughly brainwashed to feel entitled to their share of the plunder, any attempt to seriously slash the size and scope of the out-of-control Federal government, would spark another civil war for sure – witness Wisconsin. It may have already begun with the followup ‘Occupy’ movement. While I have no doubt that the well-armed Patriots in the Heartland would ultimately win such a contest, with the helpless pampered Progressives crowed together in their big city ghettos and college towns, what would we have won that is worth the effort and grief? We would just inherit the unsustainable debt, obligations, and whining sheeple; and the vanquished Progressives would just be plotting new ways to subvert our culture, to regain control in the future.
The truth is that there is no compromise possible between Liberty and Tyranny. We have irreconcilable differences with the Progressives, and every attempt to compromise with them, always results in an incremental loss of our Liberty, not to mention our income. Perhaps it is time for a divorce. I am quite prepared to give up considering these anti-American fools to be my fellow countrymen, and the foul rabbit warrens of the big cities they inhabit, as part of my country. City folk dismiss us as unsophisticated rubes in red Flyover Country; why not just dismiss them as supercilious jerks in blue Fly-into Country? What exactly would we lose, if places like NYC, Chicago, SF, Oakland, et al, were no longer within our country?
My generation was taught that America was an exceptional country, because it was more of an idea than a place, where government was of, by, and for the people, not a privileged ruling class. Our forefathers were rugged individualists, who had fled the tyranny of the intertwined ruling elites of Europe, the propertied aristocrats and the established church of state. These hearty pioneers were more than willing to carve a new beginning out of a rugged frontier, for the opportunity to live free of these oppressive rulers, and worship their God in their own way, subservient to no one.
Initially, this arrangement was most agreeable to the European monarchs and nobles. They simultaneously rid themselves of the malcontent riffraff in their midst, and induced them to exploit the resources and develop the New World, where they had recently planted their flag claiming dominion. The church was just happy to be shed of the more troublesome Protestants, who were challenging their monopoly over the collection plate and access to their God. After the Pilgrims first landed at Plymouth Rock, things went reasonably smoothly for a half dozen generations.
By then, there were 13 thriving, largely self-governing, colonies along the Eastern seaboard of North America, with proper cities and industrious citizens, and new pioneers pushing steadily westward. A lot of money was being made in the commerce between Europe and America; but apparently not enough for the Europeans, who tried governing their colonies with a heaver hand than the Colonists had grown accustomed to, and taxing them more than they were willing to pay. The end result was our Revolutionary war, and the birth of 13 new, free, and independent sovereign nations.
They quickly joined a mutual defense and free trade pact with the Articles of Confederation, which they replaced within a decade with the Constitution of the United States of America. Still, it is important to realize that our Founders didn’t create The US out of whole cloth; they merely loosely joined together self-governing political entities, which had already existed for generations. Each had their own laws governing behavior of their citizens, and the Federal government was not given the power to interfere in such matters. Now that there are 50 of them, they still have their own constitutions, laws, and fully functioning governments; and if the USA were to be dissolved tomorrow, they would continue to exist as sovereign nations in their own right, just as England, France, and Germany would not cease to exist if the EU collapses.
Thus the suggestion that the collapse of the Federal government would necessarily result in anarchy across America, is wishful thinking by the Saul Alinsky / Cloward-Piven influenced radicals behind the ‘Occupy’ movement. As usual, their pointless Marxist inspired riots are befouling their own Progressive neighborhoods, and having almost no effect on the lives of those productive citizens they detest, who are just getting on with their lives in the Heartland. Were it not for the rapt attention of the media to their antics, most of us wouldn’t even know about the mindless fools, and their ludicrous urban camping adventure.
I would like to suggest that we grant them what they are asking for, and perhaps even join them in their endeavor to collapse the Federal government. There has been much talk in segments of the Patriot community, regarding the notion of some red States seceding from the overbearing Union once again, in order to re-institute proper Constitutional government. Wouldn’t it be much easier to simply dissolve the Union entirely, and allow everyone start over? The ‘idea’ of America is still there to be had, for all that aspire to return to the halcyon days of our nation’s youth, before the Progressives screwed it up.
Free of the oppressive mandates, regulations, court rulings, debt, and taxes of the erstwhile Federal government, each State would be able to offer capitalists the world over, an environment conducive to moving their production facilities there, to create a thriving economy again. Local natural resources could be easily exploited again, absent absurd EPA regulations, and unemployment would virtually be nil in any State that truly wished it to be so. The truth is, that a breakup of the Federal government would be a godsend to most red States.
Once free of the tyranny of DC, the States would be able to form new federations, perhaps several of them on a regional basis. Red capitalist States could base theirs largely on natural law and the original Constitution, with only the original 10 Amendments. Blue socialist States could base theirs on their Marxist notion of social justice, and draft a new constitution, which enshrines their complacent vision of a nanny-state, comprised of unarmed compliant sheeple. How they fund it is their problem. With Galt’s Gulch just over the border, how they manage to keep enough productive taxpaying citizens from emigrating to a red State, would be a serious issue, which would be amusing to observe play out; but again that is their problem. Eventually some may get a clue and try capitalism, like the Chinese have done.
One of the greatest benefits of a new beginning, would be to once again remove social issues from national politics. The entire library of case law and SCOTUS rulings would go on the ash heap of history. Each State can enact their own laws regarding abortion, marriage, and public schooling for instance. Then, since they are no longer fellow countrymen, the folks of blue States could stop concerning themselves with what goes on in the public square and institutions of red States, and the folks of red States could stop concerning themselves with what goes on behind closed doors and in hospitals in blue States. Since there is absolutely nothing we could do about it, how many of us know or truly care, whether abortion or gay marriage is legal in Mexico or Honduras or Zimbabwe?
Each State would have their own immigration laws and requirements for citizenship. Since the wiser red States will have abandoned all forms of social safety nets, returning charity to the churches and private benevolent societies, any immigrant looking for work is likely to be an asset rather than a drain on a vibrant economy, if they are willing to learn to speak the official language and assimilate into the local culture. Those unwilling to play by the local rules, can be bussed to the border of a blue State, which is still actively promoting diversity and offering social benefits for immigrants.
I suspect most immigrants to red States would be from blue States, willing to abandon security for the animating contest of a productive life well lived, in a land of Liberty and unlimited opportunity. Conversely, the less industrious bleeding hearts caught in a red State, will naturally wish to emigrate to a blue State, where they will feel more at home with like-minded folks. While the former might be problematical for the tax base of the blue States, both would be win-wins for the red States.
Interestingly, since it is a private bank completely outside its control, the Federal Reserve Bank and Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) would survive a breakup of the Federal government. Since it is currently the reserve currency for the world, and freely used in commerce everywhere, there is nothing stopping its continued use among the 50 States, other than prudence. Any serious red State should immediately begin coining real gold and silver money, and perhaps charter State banks to deal in metal backed currency of the State; but as long as the world kept dealing in FRNs, an equitable exchange rate for local currency could be established and changed as frequently as necessary to keep up with the value the world places on FRNs in trade.
As long as State citizens are not forced to accept FRNs as legal tender, there should be no problem. The wise citizen would borrow and loan in solid metal backed local currency; but could deal in short term commerce in FRNs, if convenient and agreeable to both buyer and seller. In any case, the initial breakup need not be a financial crisis to those with bank accounts and assets denominated in FRNs, with the caveat that it is unknown what the outside world would choose to do with their hordes of them during the initial confusion. If they panicked and started dumping them, they could become pretty worthless fairly quickly, and the price of gold and silver could skyrocket when denominated in FRNs.
There are other considerations of the breakup that are not so easily addressed. Among them is how to divvy up the mobile military assets of the Federal government. Obviously, ownership of the military bases at home, would devolve to the States that contain them; but the naval ships, aircraft, nuclear arsenal, etc. would be a serious question. Another would be all the people currently receiving their entire incomes from SSI, military retirement, etc. directly from the Federal government. Perhaps these two issues could be conflated by having the States and/or new federations purchase the military assets, and place their proceeds in a (real) trust fund to continue these payments for those who earned them.
There will be hundreds more such issues that I have yet to think of; but on the whole this idea strikes me as very reasonable and doable. It would certainly be a better alternative to another civil war, and I think it has merit for serious discussion. The demise of our country is coming sooner or later, and probably sooner, with the coming financial collapse that is now unavoidable. We can do it amicably as adults, with some fore-planning to make it as painless as possible, or we can just hasten the collapse and let the chips fall where they may. I would love to entertain some serious discussion on the merits of this proposal. ◄Dave►



As a first comment, I have dug into my archives from back in ’08 & ’09, for a couple of interesting posts concerning a Russian political analyst who was predicting the imminent collapse and breakup of America, into regional zones:
http://www.thoughtsaloud.com/2008/11/25/russia-gets-it/
http://www.thoughtsaloud.com/2008/12/29/divided-states-of-america/
btw: the electoral map by counties is a click-able link to my definition of Flyover Country.
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Absolutely brilliant! The federal government is the curse and blight on this nation and flushing it down the bowl and beginning a new with independent states would be a great start. Those who poo-poo the idea lack vision and forget that most of the nations of europe are smaller than many of our states so the idea is not that far fetched.
Thanks for the kind words and for taking the time to read it, Jon. Yes, there are some egos over there that will nix anything they didn’t think of, or that doesn’t comport with what we all should be doing to achieve their agenda.
I seriously think this would be a far more expedient path back to small Constitutional government, and worth spreading the concept around. It might just catch on. Feel free to re-post it anywhere you would like. ◄Dave►
My ancestors tried it in the Revolution and The Late Unpleasantness and I’m ready for another go around. Posted.
Dividing up into several federations/confederations along the so-called “red” and “blue” lines would certainly have one positive and almost immediate effect. Pure progressivism without a free market segment to plunder would soon show its true worth (or lack of same). The question is, what would they do next? Presumably, they would have inherited their share of the current American military capability, which would include a share of the nukes. Would this then lead to an inter-federation war that would destroy us all?
My sense is that Marxism/liberalism/progressivism is rather like smallpox. We will not be safe until it has been completely eradicated. The problem is that I don’t have a clue how to do this.
Dae suggests education as the best approach. I agree except for the time required, IMHO, being longer than the time available.
The idea of a TexOkArkLa federation is very appealing but I somehow doubt the takers would simply leave us alone to live as we see fit. That is essentially all we asked for 150 years ago and we all know how that turned out.
Sorry but I cannot yet fully visualize any peaceful way out of our mess, however much I want to.
There is also another dimension to this mess. Troy, Dave, John and others who comment here tend to measure the America of today against the America of our youth. Ergo, the loss we perceive is huge. We tend to forget that our children never really experienced that America and our grandchildren, if they know of it at all, consider it some kind of ancient history. The point I am leading up to is that they do not feel the same urgency that we feel because their concept of potential loss is so different from ours. There are days when I think that simply writing my generation off as a bunch of relics might be the best thing for our descendents rather than force them into a struggle that they have little passion for.
Troy
Troy stated: “Dae suggests education as the best approach. I agree except for the time required, IMHO, being longer than the time available”.
Unfortunately, Troy, you may be correct. The purpose of education, in this context, is to change the underlying existing philosophy of the country. The Progressives and their ilk have been busy doing this for at least the last couple of hundred years. Their progress was slow to start with, but today few question the concept of self sacrifice for the state, religion, community etc. I see only two roads open for us in the future Troy. One: we are successful in restoring a predominantly rational individualist philosophy to our culture. This can only happen by education.
Two: we will decline into a new dark ages relativisticly speaking. Our country breaking up into separate parts being part of this decline. Even if one of the parts was to survive looting or occupation by its less rational neighbors or foreign adversaries there will be the problem of a military junta occupying the old boundaries and even extending them. Also the people in the new states will still have the same philosophy that is at the root of our problems. It still has to be dealt with.
The progressive/collectivists have one disadvantage at the present – communications. Never in the history of mankind has the ability to communicate ideas been better. We must take full advantage of this. The facts are on our side and only the intellectuals (people concerning themselves with ideas) have to be convinced, since they set the paths which others follow. Presently the collectivists are “out of the closet” they need “education.”
There is simply not enough time for education. We are witnessing the overt active stage of an ongoing Marxist revolution. Go read the Cloward – Piven Strategy. It was to actively encourage as many citizens as possible to get on the public dole, to overwhelm and collapse the Federal government, so that a Marxist revolution would be supported by the masses.
What we witnessed in Wisconsin is precisely what would happen nationwide, were the TEA Party successful in wresting control of DC from the Progressives, and then attempt to rein in the out-of-control Federal government spending. They WANT to financially collapse the Federal government, and with its mountain of debt, unfunded liabilities, and ever more anemic tax base, it is essentially too late now to prevent it.
What I am positing is the flaw in their strategy, which is their belief that the Federal government IS ITSELF the USA, and that the State and local governments are just feckless subdivisions of it, which would necessarily collapse at the same time. This is simply untrue. While the largess of the Federal entitlement programs are critical to the survival of big cities, the vast majority of us in Flyover Country pay far more in Federal taxes than we ever get back to augment local governmental services. We pretty much fund our own police, fire protection, schools, roads, etc. through our county property taxes.
Allowing the Feds to tax us and suck our money into DC, so they can give some of it back with huge strings attached to control us, is sheer folly. Allowing the Feds to deny our right to tap our own natural resources, in favor of 2″ fish, 3″ lizards, or 4″ kangaroo mice is insanity. None of this madness was contemplated by our founders or enshrined in our Constitution. Had they intended the Interstate Commerce Clause to be a giant loophole to empower Congress to usurp the powers reserved to the States, it would have never been ratified.
I am not proposing a big political effort to secede from the Union again. I am proposing we stop working so hard to delay its inevitable collapse, because it has outgrown its usefulness to conservative minded folks. If we had the considerable time required to repair the Federal government, and educate enough sheeple to get back to Constitutional principles, it might be worth the effort; but alas, there simply is not enough time left, and we are wasting our lives struggling over providing our posterity a future that will never be. Read Pat Buchanan’s new book, “Suicide of a Superpower” and see if you can honestly see a realistic way out of the mess we are in, which keeps the country intact.
I reject the premise that the Marxist revolutionaries could mount a serious effort to conquer red States after they collapse the Federal government. To suggest that our predominantly Patriotic military forces, while wondering where their next paycheck is coming from, could be induced to wage war on conservative, capitalist, red States, at the behest of the Marxist radicals in socialist blue States, seems ludicrous to me. Even it they somehow could, we would be on righteous defense on our own turf, and they would have to contend with every redneck with a deer rifle anywhere, as a potential sniper. I sure wouldn’t want to be caught wearing a uniform anywhere in Flyover Country, if they tried it.
As to how to pay for military equipment, partial payments could be made over time into the trust fund for retirement payments. Else, we simply fire up our own ship building and military equipment industries, which would put a lot of people to work. We would have adequate ports in the Gulf of Mexico for foreign trade, and the blue States would be more or less forced to trade with us for adequate food for their huddled masses, just as Russia always had to do, so trying to limit our trade through their ports would be counter productive. Sure, there would undoubtedly be some unpleasantries at first; but I suspect the advantages of an extension of NAFTA to include the new countries of North America would soon make sense to all concerned.
To repeat, I am not talking about seceding from the Union, I am proposing to allow it to disintegrate on its own. This is not something that requires debate among corrupt, pandering, demagogic, politicians in the halls of Congress, all we have to do is allow it to happen, and start over. What if these corrupt Progressive politicians held an election, and nobody bothered to vote? What if a bunch of red States simply stopped sending politicians to DC? Let the Progressives have the infernal debt ridden, utterly corrupt, Sodom by the Potomac, and allow it to become irrelevant to our lives. The map is not the territory, and the current government is not the country. We the People are, and without our support, there is no Federal government. ◄Dave►
If we cannot bind the Feds with the Constitution, dismantling it is a good idea and one many Americans could be sold. After all, they can have it ‘their’ way in ‘their’ state and we could find a state we can mold into a ‘free state’. That I might move for provided it does not get too hot or too cold. : ) I am spoiled . . .
Hi, Gail! Yes, I am spoiled too. Our marvelous weather is the ONLY thing that keeps me here in lala land.
However, I’ll admit that since writing this, I have been perusing real estate sites in Texas and Arkansas. I’ll be ready to bug-out for sure, and looking at land values near lakes with good fishing back there, I may not wait.
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