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		<title>By: Tribal</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, unfortunately true. You may just be right but one must hope, at least for myself as I am going to have to be around for awhile, well, unless the civil war does happen in which case I will probably be one of the ones they come for first, at least if it is up to me.  Rather go out in a blaze of glory and possibly spark up some interest then to bow down and follow the sheeple onto the cattle cars.  We will see... there is always some nice little island somewhere with a little wahine in a grass skirt with a cool drink with one of those umbrella&#039;s in it...ahhh.  Well I must have dozed off and typed a bit of visual from dreamland.  On that note, I &#039;m going back to sleep... good night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, unfortunately true. You may just be right but one must hope, at least for myself as I am going to have to be around for awhile, well, unless the civil war does happen in which case I will probably be one of the ones they come for first, at least if it is up to me.  Rather go out in a blaze of glory and possibly spark up some interest then to bow down and follow the sheeple onto the cattle cars.  We will see&#8230; there is always some nice little island somewhere with a little wahine in a grass skirt with a cool drink with one of those umbrella&#8217;s in it&#8230;ahhh.  Well I must have dozed off and typed a bit of visual from dreamland.  On that note, I &#8216;m going back to sleep&#8230; good night.</p>
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		<title>By: ◄Dave►</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I blame Bush for far more crimes against ‘We the People’ in so far as doing all and everything he could to show he was above the law and could care less about the Constitution. He did more to disgrace that document and all the people who have given their lives to make sure it was safe then anyone I can think of.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Not even close, Tribal. Do some studying on Wilson and FDR. For that matter, Lincoln did more damage to the Constitution than Bush did. The Marxist in Chief is now shredding it.

I frequently called for Bush&#039;s impeachment over his dereliction of duty on the Border issue. Look how insignificant that issue seems now that the Obamessiah is nationalizing our banks, insurance companies, automobile industry, and coming soon the health care and energy industries. He and his Progressive sycophants in Congress are spending our great grandchildren&#039;s money like a drunken sailor, and utterly trashing our currency in the process.

The Patriot Act had some onerous features; but it was a bipartisan bill and all it did was give law enforcement the same power to deal with international terrorists as it already had to deal with international drug cartels. One can make the argument that they shouldn&#039;t have those powers at all, and in most cases I would; but it is disingenuous to imply that they were invented out of whole cloth by Bush.

I have immense reverence for the Constitution; but it is not a suicide pact. One can be sure that if Bush had failed to be as aggressive as possible in preventing a repeat of 9/11 and the Jihadis had pulled off another attack, Bush would have been rightly crucified; and any excuse on his part that spying on terrorists would have been unconstitutional just wouldn&#039;t have cut it.

Don&#039;t you find it interesting that on defense issues, now that the Obamessiah is on the throne and gets to see the daily threat assessment intel, he has pretty much abandoned his anti-war election rhetoric and is following the same policies as Bush?

Much as I detest McCain, and I didn&#039;t vote for him either, he would have been infinitely better than the Usurper. First, we would have had divided government, which always slows down the process of undermining the Constitution. We would still be eroding toward socialism; but not at light speed, as we are now. Then, the R&#039;s would have forced him to pick originalist SCOTUS judges like Bush did, not these activist &quot;living document&quot; types we will get now.

You are right that neither wing of the Incumbrepublocrats will ever get us back to Constitutional government; but we don&#039;t have the time required to build a third party. This country is history. It will disintegrate from the crushing debt, devalued currency, and civil war long before enough people could be educated enough to stop it. ◄Dave►</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I blame Bush for far more crimes against ‘We the People’ in so far as doing all and everything he could to show he was above the law and could care less about the Constitution. He did more to disgrace that document and all the people who have given their lives to make sure it was safe then anyone I can think of.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not even close, Tribal. Do some studying on Wilson and FDR. For that matter, Lincoln did more damage to the Constitution than Bush did. The Marxist in Chief is now shredding it.</p>
<p>I frequently called for Bush&#8217;s impeachment over his dereliction of duty on the Border issue. Look how insignificant that issue seems now that the Obamessiah is nationalizing our banks, insurance companies, automobile industry, and coming soon the health care and energy industries. He and his Progressive sycophants in Congress are spending our great grandchildren&#8217;s money like a drunken sailor, and utterly trashing our currency in the process.</p>
<p>The Patriot Act had some onerous features; but it was a bipartisan bill and all it did was give law enforcement the same power to deal with international terrorists as it already had to deal with international drug cartels. One can make the argument that they shouldn&#8217;t have those powers at all, and in most cases I would; but it is disingenuous to imply that they were invented out of whole cloth by Bush.</p>
<p>I have immense reverence for the Constitution; but it is not a suicide pact. One can be sure that if Bush had failed to be as aggressive as possible in preventing a repeat of 9/11 and the Jihadis had pulled off another attack, Bush would have been rightly crucified; and any excuse on his part that spying on terrorists would have been unconstitutional just wouldn&#8217;t have cut it.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you find it interesting that on defense issues, now that the Obamessiah is on the throne and gets to see the daily threat assessment intel, he has pretty much abandoned his anti-war election rhetoric and is following the same policies as Bush?</p>
<p>Much as I detest McCain, and I didn&#8217;t vote for him either, he would have been infinitely better than the Usurper. First, we would have had divided government, which always slows down the process of undermining the Constitution. We would still be eroding toward socialism; but not at light speed, as we are now. Then, the R&#8217;s would have forced him to pick originalist SCOTUS judges like Bush did, not these activist &#8220;living document&#8221; types we will get now.</p>
<p>You are right that neither wing of the Incumbrepublocrats will ever get us back to Constitutional government; but we don&#8217;t have the time required to build a third party. This country is history. It will disintegrate from the crushing debt, devalued currency, and civil war long before enough people could be educated enough to stop it. ◄Dave►</p>
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		<title>By: Tribal</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtsaloud.com/2009/06/21/uncommon-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-1087</link>
		<dc:creator>Tribal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Dave, nice to see another post, I got to the point of checking daily first thing online and have missed the regularity but I know it gets busy up that way. I agree with most of what your saying but have to wonder why you give so much credit to Obama? or the Obamessiah, what I mean is, all that is going on and what has got us to this point has been as you say over a hundred years coming and he is just the current front man. He is definitely bringing &#039;change&#039; but not as was inferred in his campaign.  I also didn&#039;t vote for him nor McCain but rather the only politician I saw as following through with his promises, Ron Paul.  I blame Bush for far more crimes against &#039;We the People&#039; in so far as doing all and everything he could to show he was above the law and could care less about the Constitution.  He did more to disgrace that document and all the people who have given their lives to make sure it was safe then anyone I can think of.  Now I know you are much better versed in the political history of America and I am not trying to debate you on that, it is just curious to me that you give Obama so much credit and before the changing of the guard you weren&#039;t so critical of Bush?  With that said, I know I wasn&#039;t as regular a reader of your blog nor was your blog around for most of his dictatorship.  Bush did more to make Big Government what it is and Obama is also furthering that cause, with selective service, renewing the PATRIOT Act(which should be called the UNpatriot Act(Play with word meant))  Is it just that Obama is the current front man or do you think it would be much different if McCain won?  I think both parties are responsible for the loss of the Constitution as the law of the land and I don&#039;t think we are going to get anywhere close to what needs to be accomplished with either of those parties.  Little by little people from both parties are starting to say and feel the same, I think that is due to the internet and blogs like this, you tube and the like and the ability to have a little free speech not controlled by the media juggernaut and the few people that control it.  Which who knows will last before they figure out how to take that away too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dave, nice to see another post, I got to the point of checking daily first thing online and have missed the regularity but I know it gets busy up that way. I agree with most of what your saying but have to wonder why you give so much credit to Obama? or the Obamessiah, what I mean is, all that is going on and what has got us to this point has been as you say over a hundred years coming and he is just the current front man. He is definitely bringing &#8216;change&#8217; but not as was inferred in his campaign.  I also didn&#8217;t vote for him nor McCain but rather the only politician I saw as following through with his promises, Ron Paul.  I blame Bush for far more crimes against &#8216;We the People&#8217; in so far as doing all and everything he could to show he was above the law and could care less about the Constitution.  He did more to disgrace that document and all the people who have given their lives to make sure it was safe then anyone I can think of.  Now I know you are much better versed in the political history of America and I am not trying to debate you on that, it is just curious to me that you give Obama so much credit and before the changing of the guard you weren&#8217;t so critical of Bush?  With that said, I know I wasn&#8217;t as regular a reader of your blog nor was your blog around for most of his dictatorship.  Bush did more to make Big Government what it is and Obama is also furthering that cause, with selective service, renewing the PATRIOT Act(which should be called the UNpatriot Act(Play with word meant))  Is it just that Obama is the current front man or do you think it would be much different if McCain won?  I think both parties are responsible for the loss of the Constitution as the law of the land and I don&#8217;t think we are going to get anywhere close to what needs to be accomplished with either of those parties.  Little by little people from both parties are starting to say and feel the same, I think that is due to the internet and blogs like this, you tube and the like and the ability to have a little free speech not controlled by the media juggernaut and the few people that control it.  Which who knows will last before they figure out how to take that away too.</p>
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