Comments on: Liberty vs Faith http://www.thoughtsaloud.com/2009/05/15/liberty-vs-faith/ ...A Haven For Sovereign Rational Minds Sat, 28 Jan 2012 21:08:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: ◄Dave► http://www.thoughtsaloud.com/2009/05/15/liberty-vs-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-1022 ◄Dave► Tue, 19 May 2009 09:55:46 +0000 http://www.thoughtsaloud.com/?p=964#comment-1022 Well said Sarge, and I will be right there behind you when duty calls. A friendly debate is always enjoyable, and I am game; but I am not sure there is much point in debating the existence of gods, or your particular choice of one. We are unlikely to change our minds, now are we? ;) If you are inclined, have a go and I will certainly be respectful... with one caveat; please don't quote scripture, as I have read both the King James and Revised Standard versions of the Bible, and do not personally consider them authoritative on anything. I do think a debate over the issue of mixing religion with politics is in order. Can you see my point in the article above? From the perspective of politics, I somewhat disagree with Ann. The insistence that elected officials must declare their personal views on the abortion issue, for instance, causes them to tie themselves in knots trying to be all things to all people, on a subject that shouldn't even be addressed at the Federal level. Roe V. Wade was a terrible decision on the State's Rights issue, and should be addressed on that issue, not any moral one. Can you see that those who disagree over the morality of abortion, are encouraging government to regulate it, one way or the other, and all our individual Liberty suffers as a consequence? If one lives in Texas, why get one's knickers in a twist over someone in NYC aborting the spawn of her rapist? More importantly, where in the Constitution is the Federal government granted the power to regulate a woman's reproductive behavior? ◄Dave► Well said Sarge, and I will be right there behind you when duty calls. A friendly debate is always enjoyable, and I am game; but I am not sure there is much point in debating the existence of gods, or your particular choice of one. We are unlikely to change our minds, now are we? ;)

If you are inclined, have a go and I will certainly be respectful… with one caveat; please don’t quote scripture, as I have read both the King James and Revised Standard versions of the Bible, and do not personally consider them authoritative on anything.

I do think a debate over the issue of mixing religion with politics is in order. Can you see my point in the article above? From the perspective of politics, I somewhat disagree with Ann. The insistence that elected officials must declare their personal views on the abortion issue, for instance, causes them to tie themselves in knots trying to be all things to all people, on a subject that shouldn’t even be addressed at the Federal level.

Roe V. Wade was a terrible decision on the State’s Rights issue, and should be addressed on that issue, not any moral one. Can you see that those who disagree over the morality of abortion, are encouraging government to regulate it, one way or the other, and all our individual Liberty suffers as a consequence? If one lives in Texas, why get one’s knickers in a twist over someone in NYC aborting the spawn of her rapist? More importantly, where in the Constitution is the Federal government granted the power to regulate a woman’s reproductive behavior? ◄Dave►

]]> By: The SGT http://www.thoughtsaloud.com/2009/05/15/liberty-vs-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-1019 The SGT Mon, 18 May 2009 22:51:35 +0000 http://www.thoughtsaloud.com/?p=964#comment-1019 Well said Ann. I am a born again Christian who believes that many of the rights laid out in the Contitution were laid out long before in the Bible but that doesn't mean I wouldn't be proud to man a fighting position with my fellow American, be they Jew, Buddist, Athiest, etc. I would be happy to engage in friendly debate with them too. As long as it doesn't ruin our ability to guard eachother's back in a tight spot. Ie. Treat eachother with respect and there won't be any hard feelings. The Bible teaches that too .. even if some of the more legalistic have forgotten it. ( ; Well said Ann.
I am a born again Christian who believes that many of the rights laid out in the Contitution were laid out long before in the Bible but that doesn’t mean I wouldn’t be proud to man a fighting position with my fellow American, be they Jew, Buddist, Athiest, etc. I would be happy to engage in friendly debate with them too. As long as it doesn’t ruin our ability to guard eachother’s back in a tight spot. Ie. Treat eachother with respect and there won’t be any hard feelings. The Bible teaches that too .. even if some of the more legalistic have forgotten it. ( ;

]]> By: Ann http://www.thoughtsaloud.com/2009/05/15/liberty-vs-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-1017 Ann Sun, 17 May 2009 17:55:39 +0000 http://www.thoughtsaloud.com/?p=964#comment-1017 We need fundamentalists, they need us. We have to quit the nit picking on this and keep our goals in mind, ever moving towards less government as stated in the constitution. We need fundamentalists, they need us. We have to quit the nit picking on this and keep our goals in mind, ever moving towards less government as stated in the constitution.

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