Comments on: Morality and Politics http://www.thoughtsaloud.com/2008/12/25/morality-and-politics/ ...A Haven For Sovereign Rational Minds Sat, 28 Jan 2012 21:08:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Steel Phoenix http://www.thoughtsaloud.com/2008/12/25/morality-and-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-173 Steel Phoenix Fri, 26 Dec 2008 20:36:36 +0000 http://www.thoughtsaloud.com/2008/12/25/morality-and-politics/#comment-173 I'm enjoying the commercial nature. I'm not really making money yet, although I'm still just starting out, but I think advertising is changing. The nature of modern contextual or hand picked affiliate advertising makes it vastly less irritating than either the rabbits singing about toilet paper we are forced to endure in the middle of a suspenseful TV show, or those irritating pop up windows that gave internet advertising a bad name. It may be because I'm more attuned now, but I actually deliberately look at the advertising on blogs now because it gives me useful links sometimes. If you are going to recommend a book you think your readers would appreciate, why not give them a convenient link to it on amazon? They get convenience and a great book ,and you get a cut. It is free market at its best. More people are waking up to this as they start up their own blogs and pick out a few ads to put up. We are seeing the birth of a system that puts both the media and paid advertising in the hands of individuals. We do a better job of it. I did a bit more thinking about the two dimensional political graph and still couldn't come up with anything I was satisfied with. I think the computer with its many dimensional wisdom may have to come to the rescue. I’m enjoying the commercial nature. I’m not really making money yet, although I’m still just starting out, but I think advertising is changing. The nature of modern contextual or hand picked affiliate advertising makes it vastly less irritating than either the rabbits singing about toilet paper we are forced to endure in the middle of a suspenseful TV show, or those irritating pop up windows that gave internet advertising a bad name. It may be because I’m more attuned now, but I actually deliberately look at the advertising on blogs now because it gives me useful links sometimes. If you are going to recommend a book you think your readers would appreciate, why not give them a convenient link to it on amazon? They get convenience and a great book ,and you get a cut. It is free market at its best. More people are waking up to this as they start up their own blogs and pick out a few ads to put up. We are seeing the birth of a system that puts both the media and paid advertising in the hands of individuals. We do a better job of it.

I did a bit more thinking about the two dimensional political graph and still couldn’t come up with anything I was satisfied with. I think the computer with its many dimensional wisdom may have to come to the rescue.

]]> By: ◄Dave► http://www.thoughtsaloud.com/2008/12/25/morality-and-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-172 ◄Dave► Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:23:24 +0000 http://www.thoughtsaloud.com/2008/12/25/morality-and-politics/#comment-172 We both have an uphill battle. I liked the "meddlers vs. anarchists" meme. It sort of fits with my UP/DOWN concept. I enjoyed exploring both of your links. I have been using AdBlock and NoScript with Firefox for so long that I often forget the commercial nature of most blogs. ◄Dave► We both have an uphill battle. I liked the “meddlers vs. anarchists” meme. It sort of fits with my UP/DOWN concept. I enjoyed exploring both of your links. I have been using AdBlock and NoScript with Firefox for so long that I often forget the commercial nature of most blogs. ◄Dave►

]]> By: Steel Phoenix http://www.thoughtsaloud.com/2008/12/25/morality-and-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-171 Steel Phoenix Fri, 26 Dec 2008 16:43:39 +0000 http://www.thoughtsaloud.com/2008/12/25/morality-and-politics/#comment-171 Whoops, Just noticed I posted the wrong link. http://www.4hourfollowers.com/2008/12/funnel-sites/ Whoops, Just noticed I posted the wrong link. http://www.4hourfollowers.com/2008/12/funnel-sites/

]]> By: Steel Phoenix http://www.thoughtsaloud.com/2008/12/25/morality-and-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-170 Steel Phoenix Fri, 26 Dec 2008 16:14:01 +0000 http://www.thoughtsaloud.com/2008/12/25/morality-and-politics/#comment-170 You have an uphill battle on your hands. It is fast becoming an argument between the meddlers and the anarchists. Our ranks are growing as the obvious unsustainability of the taxless spenders becomes apparent, but we are vastly outnumbered and outranked. Pope Benedict XVI’s stated in his Christmas message 12-22-08 that the human race is as threatened by gay and lesbian families as are the rain forest from wanton destruction. The pope declared that the church "must defend not only the earth, the water and the air as gifts of creation belonging to everyone, but it must also protect mankind against the destruction of itself. The tropical forests deserve our protection, but man as a creature deserves it no less." I don't think the two parties have the same core ideology, they just both set it aside in order to act in their own self interest. George W. Bush’s 12-24-08 statement, “I abandoned free market principles to save the free market system.”, shows that this goes straight to the top. The statement is somewhat echoed In Pat Buchanan's statement about 'Toyota Republicans' that I wrote about the other day. I've been trying to pull that crowd back a bit towards free market, going so far as making a funnel site for the term (I explain the concept on one of my other blogs http://www.4hourfollowers.com/?page_id=3). You have an uphill battle on your hands. It is fast becoming an argument between the meddlers and the anarchists. Our ranks are growing as the obvious unsustainability of the taxless spenders becomes apparent, but we are vastly outnumbered and outranked.
Pope Benedict XVI’s stated in his Christmas message 12-22-08 that the human race is as threatened by gay and lesbian families as are the rain forest from wanton destruction. The pope declared that the church “must defend not only the earth, the water and the air as gifts of creation belonging to everyone, but it must also protect mankind against the destruction of itself. The tropical forests deserve our protection, but man as a creature deserves it no less.”
I don’t think the two parties have the same core ideology, they just both set it aside in order to act in their own self interest. George W. Bush’s 12-24-08 statement, “I abandoned free market principles to save the free market system.”, shows that this goes straight to the top. The statement is somewhat echoed In Pat Buchanan’s statement about ‘Toyota Republicans’ that I wrote about the other day. I’ve been trying to pull that crowd back a bit towards free market, going so far as making a funnel site for the term (I explain the concept on one of my other blogs http://www.4hourfollowers.com/?page_id=3).

]]> By: ◄Dave► http://www.thoughtsaloud.com/2008/12/25/morality-and-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-169 ◄Dave► Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:29:45 +0000 http://www.thoughtsaloud.com/2008/12/25/morality-and-politics/#comment-169 I certainly agree with your overall point. I presume by now you have read my "<a href="http://www.thoughtsaloud.com/incumbrepublocrats/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Incumbrepublocrats</a>" piece. However, the two wings do their best to convince the sheeple that there is a great difference between them, to keep their "base" frightened of their opposition and stuck to their coalition. My motive in hammering the PC² meme is to get those taken in by either side to notice how similar they are to the other. I.e. Political Correctness is a moralizing dogma that is much like a religion, which they abhor; and Piety Correctness is a moralizing dogma that resembles the behavior regulating PC agenda, which they abhor. One of my favorite questions to either side is, "Would you give up your desire to regulate their behavior, if they would stop trying to change yours?" It has been my observation that most on both sides think they are playing defense, to preserve their very way of life. It would seem that therein lay the makings of a compromise that could really foul up the politician's game. ◄Dave► I certainly agree with your overall point. I presume by now you have read my “Incumbrepublocrats” piece. However, the two wings do their best to convince the sheeple that there is a great difference between them, to keep their “base” frightened of their opposition and stuck to their coalition. My motive in hammering the PC² meme is to get those taken in by either side to notice how similar they are to the other.

I.e. Political Correctness is a moralizing dogma that is much like a religion, which they abhor; and Piety Correctness is a moralizing dogma that resembles the behavior regulating PC agenda, which they abhor. One of my favorite questions to either side is, “Would you give up your desire to regulate their behavior, if they would stop trying to change yours?” It has been my observation that most on both sides think they are playing defense, to preserve their very way of life. It would seem that therein lay the makings of a compromise that could really foul up the politician’s game. ◄Dave►

]]> By: Steel Phoenix http://www.thoughtsaloud.com/2008/12/25/morality-and-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-168 Steel Phoenix Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:00:04 +0000 http://www.thoughtsaloud.com/2008/12/25/morality-and-politics/#comment-168 I think it is odd that you keep referring to the Democrats and Republicans as if they are extremists on opposite ends of the spectrum. I see it as the opposite; they have both become the worst sort of moderate. I think the problem stems from the media. It seeks to boost the underdog and discredit the front runner in order to have a close race that makes daily news. This leaves both parties pandering for every little vote and trying to please everyone. The easiest way to keep those votes is to just give everyone what they want: more programs and less taxes. They both strive for both political and pious correctness. I think it is odd that you keep referring to the Democrats and Republicans as if they are extremists on opposite ends of the spectrum. I see it as the opposite; they have both become the worst sort of moderate.

I think the problem stems from the media. It seeks to boost the underdog and discredit the front runner in order to have a close race that makes daily news. This leaves both parties pandering for every little vote and trying to please everyone. The easiest way to keep those votes is to just give everyone what they want: more programs and less taxes. They both strive for both political and pious correctness.

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